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Since recording this episode, Josh has published three articles responding to listener questions about our conclusion that we should generally call abortion advocates “pro-choice” instead of “pro-abortion.”

  1. “Why we should accurately describe other people’s positions.”
  2. “Are pro-choice advocates good at describing their own position?”
  3. “Should we call ANYBODY pro-abortion?”

 

 

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posted by Life Report, July 12, 2013 @ 10:59 am

6 Tips for Arguing with Analogies Clearly

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6 Tips for Arguing with Analogies ClearlyI got a wonderful email from Andres in Santa Barbara who was in a dialogue about abortion and used an analogy about being hooked up to a machine in order to demonstrate that your personhood isn’t based on your dependance. But the person he was talking to retorted, “Are you comparing a woman to a machine?!” Andres wants to know what I would suggest we do to avoid throwing people off when the analogies we use seem, at a surface level, to demean pregnant women.

In the video, I offer six tips for making clear analogies and responding to people who continue to misinterpret them.

  1. Make sure you’re communicating clearly.
  2. Narrate the debate.
  3. Suggest a golden rule for dialogue.
  4. Explain that analogies are just that…analogies!
  5. Explain that pro-choice people would be wise to not throw out all analogies.
  6. Determine the right time to politely end the conversation.

Related Links:

  • Click here for more resources about bodily rights argument for abortion.
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Update 6/22: Upon request, I’ve written most of these points up as an article and published them at JoshBrahm.com.

Here’s an outline of my main points in response to this question from Bobby: “Some pro-life people oppose ‘incrementalist’ pro-life laws because they always end with ‘… and then you can kill the baby.’ What are your thoughts?”

Note: Many of my arguments and thinking on these issues comes from conversations I had with Scott Klusendorf and Dr. Francis Beckwith, who both graciously spent time with me while I was working through these issues in 2007. I’m not sure now who said what and how many of these arguments are really my own, nor would I want to source any of these arguments directly to Scott or Frank without their permission. (These were all private conversations.) It’s probably a fair assumption that the really smart talking points came from one of them though.

This was supposed to be a video but we had technical difficulties with the recorded video, so I’m posting the audio only.

  • Night view of Capitol Building, Washington D.C., USACommon ground: I agree that we don’t want to communicate to people that we only care about babies that feel pain, are a certain age, not conceived in rape, etc.
  • I disagree that most forms of incremental legislation send that message. I think most people know how politics works.
  • My argument is not that we should do evil that good may come. My argument is that when we pass incremental bills that will have a positive impact for the unborn, we are not actually doing evil. We are doing a good thing.
  • What’s implicit in these bills is that we want to save all, but we know we can’t, so we’re going to save the most we can, and go from there.
  • William Wilberforce helped pass a bill, the Foreign Slave Trade Bill of 1806) that you could have ended with, “and then you can sell the slave.”
  • Do you think it’s more important to make an impact or to make a statement? I don’t believe that passing a bill with a rape exception tacked onto it at the last minute sends a message to pro-choice people that we don’t care about the babies conceived in rape that are sometimes killed in abortions.

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posted by Life Report, December 29, 2012 @ 9:56 am

“My Christian Pro-Choice Dad Says His Mind is Closed About Abortion”

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Valerie from Silver Lake, Kansas emailed Life Report to ask for advice on a discouraging debate she had with her pro-choice, Christian father about abortion. Josh continues a three-part video series responding to different aspects of her email, and some of her dad’s pro-choice arguments.

This is part three, where Josh discusses…

  • how to respond when somebody claims that personhood begins when a baby takes its first breath;
  • what to do when the person you’re talking to states that their mind is closed on the issue.

Related Links:

  • Click here to download an 8-minute clip from a training Josh did where he talked about goals for dialogue and some of the cases where you should end the conversation.
  • Click here for Josh’s resources on whether Planned Parenthood is racist or not.
  • Since Valerie’s dad is a Christian, we would recommend she reviews this episode with special guest Scott Klusendorf: “Does the Bible’s Silence Justify Abortion?”
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posted by Life Report, December 26, 2012 @ 9:16 am

Are the Unborn Merely “Potential Human Beings?”

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Valerie from Silver Lake, Kansas emailed Life Report to ask for advice on a discouraging debate she had with her pro-choice, Christian father about abortion. Josh continues a three-part video series responding to different aspects of her email, and some of her dad’s pro-choice arguments.

This is part two, where Josh discusses…

  • how to respond when people call the unborn a “potential human being;”
  • the claim that life is just a cycle and nothing really begins at fertilization;
  • how to use Richard Stith’s Polaroid analogy;
  • how to define the term “human being.”

Related Links:

  • Read Scott Klusendorf’s explanation of the “trotting Out a toddler” tactic.
  • Read Richard Stith’s full article on construction versus development.
  • Since Valerie’s dad is a Christian, we would recommend she reviews this episode with special guest Scott Klusendorf: “Does the Bible’s Silence Justify Abortion?”